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| Posted: Thu May 17th, 2007 12:56 pm |
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Just wondering your thoughts on the up-coming smoking ban. Personally I don't smoke, and thought for a while that the ban was a totally good thing. However, considering most of my friends are smokers its gonna be a bit of a problem when I want to go out. After all, why shouldnt pubs be given the option to have smoke, or separate smoking rooms. It's said that the ban will make it harder for the average smoker to smoke because they have to move outside - but surely as a young impressionable teenager with sheep-like tendancies and mostly smoking friends, I'll be encouraged to stick with all my mates and breathe their smoke outside. Clubbing is going to be so different - people say that clubs will start to be nice and smell of fresh air and roses but it won't, the smoke simply covers up all the other inevitable smells that happen when thousands of drunk people dance around for 6 hours non-stop  . Would rather smell smoke any day! I also imagine it'll lead to more drugs as people need their 'fix' of something inside these places.Not to mention the hundreds of awesome little shisha bars in London that will all go out of business. You'd have to be pretty stupid to wander into a shisha bar and be offended by the smoke... Sorry for the long post, it's just a massive topic of argument between a few of my flatmates, so I was wondering what you lot thought about it. I'd hate to be told It was illegal to have a drink in a club, and that's apparently what its like for some of the more hardcore smokers I know. They simply won't go out, which would be very sad indeed.
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| Posted: Thu May 17th, 2007 03:59 pm |
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oooh, great topic Adam  I'll reply later 
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| Posted: Sat May 19th, 2007 07:15 pm |
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Aurora BANNED MY ARSE!
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I had a discussion with Chris on this subject the other night, Chris - gedin here and add your thoughts please because you had a point. My thoughts are, I wished more than anything that this ban had been in place before I was born. Tobacco is a drug and a nasty smelly one at that. I suppose some may say that alcohol is also a drug and equally as addictive but then breathing in fumes from alcohol isn't quite so offensive or harmful to those sitting nearby, although I have to say, drunks are offensive in my opinion. The ban has worked in America and France, I'm sure it'll work here too - eventually that is but then education on this matter is far better than it was when I first started smoking, there was no education then, or health risks that were reported. Anything that is good for our future generation is good to me, even if people can't understand that at this present time - it will eventually be respected, less people will complain about it and more people will accept and obey the rules, instead of the pleas of 'yet another nanny state rule'. I do often wonder 'what next' - will cars be banned because of exhaust emissions and accidents caused, will alcohol be banned because of liver disease and fights caused, will chips, butter, fried foods be banned because of high cholesterol - will British people ever get a backbone and fight unpopular government decisions Will we stop sending our young people to wars that'll lead to possible death too? There's nothing I enjoy more than to have a meal and a cigarette - however, from July 1st i've decided to make my house a 'no smoking' habitat, it can do me nothing but good (although I only smoke in the kitchen, I practically live in this room because of this) and when I'm in a restaurant, and I have to go out to have a ciggie - then I'll accept that. It's not going to be easy but it's workable
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| Posted: Sat May 19th, 2007 07:30 pm |
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 give new labour another five years and we can ban anything that doesnt involve gherkinswell as i said i hate the nanny state but am delighted i can wear my lovely black jacket and not come home smelling like an ashtray i am surprised it has take so long in a way as it does really invade other peoples space but it will be tough for smokers but in the end times change and i am sure it will all work out now i am trying to get work banned in public spaces as well
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| Posted: Sat May 19th, 2007 07:53 pm |
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Adam Male
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Hehe, so as a non-smoker i'm opposing the ban, whilst Bev's proposing as a smoker  I agree that it's good in the long run it's a good thing, but they should have waited a few years so that it doesnt spoil my fun at uni I'm joking of course, but I do seriously believe that most clubs will turn a blind eye to the ban. The club I go to most often (Fabric in London), has a tiny door and has enough trouble getting people in. I have no idea how they'd cope with the many people wanting to get out into the streets of Farringdon craving a fag if it's trouble for people to get in already. Also, bear in mind that the no smoking ban will draw hundreds of drunks onto the streets just so that they can smoke each night. As as law-abiding citizen walking through any city, i'd much rather that any rowdy drunks were kept inside the clubs rather than forced outside the streets (devoid of any proper security) to 'smoke'. Because of these assumptions, I'd imagine that most clubs will turn a blind eye to the ban. I've already experienced people smoking more extreme things than cigarettes inside clubs, and taking pills - both of which are already illegal anyways. Fabric even employs it's own drug dealers, believe it or not, who sell safe pills rather than dodgy ones at reasonable prices (although that provides another topic of conversation ). This is thankfully something i've come to ignore, but I seriously doubt that if this is the mentality that some clubs hold, the issue of someone's cigarrette mixing with that of the smoke machine won't be seriously policed by any club.I realise I am speaking in the short term - but if the short term never happens, then the long term never will - regardless of whether smoking is bad or not.
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| Posted: Sat May 19th, 2007 10:20 pm |
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As a smoker this will obviously affect me, but not too much. Although I enjoy a ciggie after a meal it wouldn't be any hardship to wait an extra few minutes or pop outside for a quick puff. I'm actually surprised that banning smoking in restaurants wasn't introduced years ago. I thought the ban would affect me more at work especially as you will be unable to smoke in company vehicles, something I didn't realise. But a quick bit of research informs me that it only applies to vechicles carrying more than one person....so everyone else in my company can bloody well walk  No more lifts from me
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| Posted: Sun May 20th, 2007 09:39 am |
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Aurora BANNED MY ARSE!
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chrisdebag wrote:
 it'll never happen Chris I don't know how that could possibly work Adam, they're policing the situation and don't forget the do-gooders of our society who appear to get a kick out of causing trouble for anyone You thought so strongly about your reply Fats that you had to say it louder and bigger than anyone - I understand now 
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| Posted: Wed Sep 12th, 2007 08:47 pm |
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Adam Male
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Raves are smelly places now 
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| Posted: Wed Sep 12th, 2007 09:54 pm |
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fat spaniel
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And pubs smell of 'drains' and rancid grease
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